May172013

Timing

  • HAYNE J: Yes. Have counsel for the applicants come to any arrangement about how time or argument should be divided?
  • MR WALKER: Not explicitly. No, your Honour. My understanding is that I would start.
  • HAYNE J: My question is obviously directed rather - - -
  • MR WALKER: When do I finish? Yes. I fear we have not got past this position.
  • HAYNE J: I would have thought there was a great deal in common. Is there any reason why argument for the applicants should extend in total beyond, shall we say, 30 minutes?
  • MR WALKER: Not from my point of view, but I - - -
  • MR WIGNEY: Will be very short and largely adopt Mr Walker’s submissions.
  • SOURCE: Joffe v The Queen; Stromer v The Queen [2013] HCATrans 109 (10 May 2013)
5PM

Pithy

  • MR SLATER: Your Honours, I am conscious that I may have run out of time.
  • CRENNAN J: Do you have something more you wish to say?
  • MR SLATER: Only this, your Honours - - -
  • KEANE J: In your usual pithy way.
  • MR SLATER: I will endeavour to be pithy, your Honour.
  • SOURCE: Greenhatch v Commissioner of Taxation of the Commonwealth of Australia [2013] HCATrans 104 (10 May 2013)
5PM

On these facts, there was a clear contravention of s 48. However, the penalties imposed were very low. An examination of the transcript of the hearing below as well as the reasons for judgment provides the explanation for this. They show that there were two reasons motivating the judge viz, his view of s 48 and his opinion about the impact of higher penalties.

As regards s 48 (perhaps even as regards the whole of Part IV) the judge during the hearing said this:

‘I’m not such an ardent disciple of competition as an economic model that it seems to me to be necessary to go knocking out of the ring everyone who does something slightly anti-competitive every so often. I happen to believe personally that competition is not necessarily a great economic model but I know that it’s the one that the Act adopts and the one that I have to apply.’

Notwithstanding the judge’s opinion, s 48 was indeed enacted on the premise that competition is important in the distribution of goods and that vertical price fixing, or resale price maintenance (supplier regulation of the price at which goods are resold), eliminates that competition.

Heerey, Finkelstein and Allsop JJ, Australian Competition and Consumer Commission v High Adventure Pty Limited [2005] FCAFC 247, [5] - [7], (2 December 2005).

Justice Gray (the judge at first instance) retires today after 29 years on the bench, the longest currently-serving judge in Australia. For contributions like this, we wish him well.

(Source: austlii.edu.au)

May152013

Not Bell Group

  • MR LEEMING: It is shortly stated, if this Court were minded to grant special leave, it is very hard to see the argument taking more than an hour.
  • HAYNE J: Appeals to judicial indolence are not often attractive, Mr Leeming.
  • MR LEEMING: I will do what I can.
  • SOURCE: Grant and Anor v YYH Holdings Pty Limited and Anor [2013] HCATrans 115 (10 May 2013)
May132013

In light of what is now admitted to be the facts, it may be doubted that this John Le Carré defence had any prospects of success.

The corporate culture of Visy in relation to its obligations under the Trade Practices Act was non-existent. None of the most senior people hesitated for a moment before embarking on obviously unlawful conduct. There was in evidence a Visy document entitled ‘Trade Practices Compliance Manual’ dated February 1998. It was signed by Mr Pratt. On the front cover it is said:

‘This is an important document. It is essential that it be read and understood by you. Visy Industries requires strict compliance with its policy on the Trade Practices Act.’

The document includes the stern warning that price fixing and market sharing are ‘strictly prohibited’ and that readers of the document ‘must never make (such) arrangements with a competitor’. Further, it is said Visy personnel:

‘Should avoid all contact with competitors or their employees other than contact approved by senior management or Visy Industries’ Legal Counsel. All necessary contact with competitors should be conducted in formal settings.’

I doubt that Westerfolds Park and the Cherry Hill Tavern could be regarded as formal settings. The Visy Trade Practices Compliance Manual might have been written in Sanskrit for all the notice anybody took of it.

Heerey J, Australian Competition and Consumer Commission v Visy Industries Holdings Pty Limited (No 3) [2007] FCA 1617, [318] - [319] (2 November 2007).

(Source: austlii.edu.au)

May122013

The Murray River

  • McHUGH J: The other matter that Adsteam does not deal with is that we have said, again and again, that there is only one common law in this country. It does not change since you move across the Murray.
  • MR BATHURST: And we deal with that in paragraphs 69 of our submissions.
  • GLEESON CJ: Or more accurately, it does not change when you reach the other side of the Murray.
  • HAYNE J: I think I am expected to reply "a man knows how to hurt".
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Recycling

  • MR BATHURST: I have not given the Court the whole of that schedule, it is very extensive, but I have given the Court the first couple of pages simply so that your Honours can get a flavour of how the matter was first approached.
  • GAUDRON J: And neither of those documents found themselves into the eight volumes?
  • MR BATHURST: That is correct. What found itself into the eight - what happened - - -
  • GAUDRON J: Oh, I do not think it matters.
  • HAYNE J: Do not waste more paper.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Assumptions

  • KIRBY J: Did either of those cases go through the Court of Appeal?
  • MR DOUGLAS: Yes, your Honour, I am sure they are in the judgments. I have not - - -
  • KIRBY J: Are we going to be taken to the principle stated by the Court of Appeal?
  • MR DOUGLAS: I had assumed that the Court had read the judgments but I am quite happy to take the Court to them.
  • KIRBY J: I think that is a - - -
  • MR DOUGLAS: That is a large assumption, your Honour?
  • KIRBY J: No, I have not read the Court of Appeal judgment.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Pleading Documents

  • GUMMOW J: Lots of trust and confidence flowing between the parties.
  • MR DOUGLAS: A huge amount, your Honour.
  • GUMMOW J: They were not hammering out a deal.
  • MR DOUGLAS: No, but, BTA did repose confidence in the Government and the Agencies in its reliance on the Government's representations - - -
  • GUMMOW J: What, to look after its interests?
  • MR DOUGLAS: Absolutely, your Honour. Apparently Mallesons were not going to do that.
  • McHUGH J: There was a time when counsel who pleaded documents like this would have been sent running around the inner temple with the pleading over his head and a hole cut out.
  • MR DOUGLAS: Your Honour, I have been wishing to do that for some time, but I am not allowed to do it unfortunately.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Plain English

  • McHUGH J: This is plain English pleading, is it?
  • MR DOUGLAS: Your Honour, there is nothing plain about this document.
  • GLEESON CJ: I thought a statement of claim was supposed to be a synopsis.
  • MR DOUGLAS: The relevant provisions of that pleading are well summarised, if I may say so, in the submissions by Mr Bathurst and Mr Gleeson in the first two paragraphs of those submissions.
  • GUMMOW J: Emperor Joseph II said to Mozart that there were too many notes. There are too many causes of action here.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Camel Driving

  • McHUGH J: There is no precise decision to that effect, is there? It may have been a practice and there was no objection taken in those cases but - - -
  • MR DOUGLAS: Well, there was some pretty good counsel in some of those, your Honour. I saw one of them, Vesta's Case, which had Sir William Deane, Mr Justice McLelland and Mr Justice Beaumont and also, I think, it was presided over by Justice Street. I mean, some of the others like the Inche - I cannot think of the name of it - Case came from the Strait Settlements and one can, perhaps, explain that.
  • KIRBY J: I hope we are going to decide this matter on points other than the counsel who appeared in cases. I mean, this is a very important issue of principle and in your principle, you have driven a team of camels into the private communication between a client and his lawyer, and that is something which you will need very strong authority or very strong principle to convince me this Court should uphold.
  • MR DOUGLAS: Your Honour, the team of camels is being driven, if we may say so, by the applicant.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Fishing Regulations

  • GUMMOW J: Well that is what I wonder about. Are you not really challenging the affidavit?
  • MR DOUGLAS: We are challenging the affidavit. Yes, your Honour. We are challenging the claims to privilege made in the affidavit.
  • GUMMOW J: Yes. Well how procedurally would one do that? It is quite a bit step, is it not?
  • McHUGH J: It looks very much like a fishing expedition.
  • MR DOUGLAS: There is plenty of fish in that sea, your Honour. There is more than 300 of them as we would see it.
  • McHUGH J: Yes, but are there any that you are entitled to catch?
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

A Shame

  • GLEESON CJ: Have there been interrogatories?
  • MR DOUGLAS: Interrogatories do not exist in New South Wales an any more, your Honour; I would hate to think of interrogatories in this case. It has now taken three years to get it going. I would imagine interrogatories, which were, I think, knocked out in cases like Southern Pacific Hotels and so on, as being too prolix.
  • GLEESON CJ: What a shame.
  • MR DOUGLAS: It is a shame.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

Taunting

  • MR LINDSAY: Your Honour, there have been a number of proceedings.
  • GLEESON CJ: It is the affidavit of discovery that we are after.
  • MR LINDSAY: The actual affidavit of discovery.
  • GUMMOW J: Yes.
  • MR LINDSAY: I am sorry, your Honour, it is not reproduced in the documents.
  • GUMMOW J: In all these eight volumes.
  • GLEESON CJ: I think you are taunting us.
  • MR LINDSAY: I wish I was so brave.
  • GUMMOW J: We presume we have competent solicitors involved in this activity.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
6PM

A Loose Procedure

  • MR LINDSAY: The order that was made by the majority of the court below was expressed to be confined to material of the nature that your Honour described.
  • HAYNE J: And that was all that was sought in the original motion, so far as presently relevant?
  • MR LINDSAY: I think the answer to that is yes, although it has been a bit of a moving feast, I must say, and one of the problems with the particular principle, as formulated, it - - -
  • GUMMOW J: Well, Telstra never seems to have a motion of their own.
  • MR LINDSAY: Yes.
  • GUMMOW J: It seems, procedurally, rather loose.
  • HAYNE J: Without any regard to any notion of how to manage a particularly difficult case with very large and voluminous discovery. There we are. Those who practice in the commercial list in Victoria well know my views on it.
  • SOURCE: BT Australasia Pty Ltd and ANOR v State of New South Wales S111/1998 [1998] HCATrans 450 (3 December 1998)
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